As we all already know, logistics are king when it comes to getting laid. While this is true everywhere, it is especially true in large Korean cities like Seoul or Busan.
I’m not entirely sure why, but the mindset of distance completely changes depending on where you live. A girl will be very willing to travel an hour or more to get to your place if it’s somewhere inside of Seoul, but living even slightly outside of the city limits will significantly limit the amount of prime pussy you can get from Seoul.
I know this first hand because I used to live in a pretty rundown part of Seoul, far in the southeast corner. The neighborhood is completely out of the way, even with Seoul’s excellent public transit. As a reference point, door to door I was about an hour from Itaewon and about an hour and a half from Hongdae station. This didn’t dissuade girls from all over the city one bit. They would come visit from all different parts of Seoul without batting an eye.
Later, I moved to an area 25 minutes west of Hongdae by subway, but because I wasn’t technically in Seoul anymore, only the thirstiest of girls were willing to make the trip out there.
Since most Korean girls live with their families, you can’t really go to their places. That severely limits your options when dealing with Seoul girls. Motels and DVD rooms are always an option, but with motel prices going up each year (now around 80k for a Friday or Saturday night in prime locations) I generally tend to avoid them. I would make an exception to break a cold streak, but renting one each weekend would be prohibitively expensive and not really worth it. DVD rooms are a last resort for me because it’s just nasty and I don’t want any part of me touching those jizz-stained sofas.
As a side note, I also have found that girls’ anti-slut defenses go up quickly if you try to go for a motel or DVD room. It seems to be much easier to convince them to come to your home where you hopefully have some excuse or draw to get them to come over.
That all still leaves us with the burning question – If I have bad logistics, what can I do to improve my success rate?
The first solution is also the most obvious – get to a better spot as soon as reasonably possible! Now, I realize that for many people this isn’t an option due to work, cost, or any other number of factors. For the sake of this thought experiment, let’s assume that you cannot change your living situation for whatever reason. I’ll also assume that you live somewhere outside of the main city, but not in a completely different city. If you are on the east coast, there’s no fixing your logistics to Seoul – you’re either stuck renting motels or hunting in your own backyard.
Step 1: Choose Your Hunting Ground
Now, assuming that you live within a reasonable distance of the city, the first thing you’ll need to do is figure out where in the city is a fairly good meeting spot from which to start. If you’re Northwest of Seoul, Hongdae is an easy choice. If you’re southwest, I’d recommend looking around the Daerim or Sindorim areas. They’re not great for picking up girls in the evening, but they’re very easy meeting places and have lots of potential for day and street game. Check your travel times though, as it may be more efficient to go the extra 15 minutes up to Hongdae.
The same is true of Sadang if you’re south of Seoul, but you may be better off moving to the Gangnam / Apgujeong area, or even north a bit into Itaewon. (Late night taxis from Itaewon are annoying, but downright impossible from Gangnam.)
On the southeast or eastern side, you have Konkuk University area, which is great for both day and night game. Both of these should be compared against the time it takes to get to Itaewon instead to see if it’s worthwhile, but Konkuk can hold its own, especially if your Korean language skill is decent.
On the northern end of the city, you’ll need to become a Line 4 expert. Nowon is a pretty good spot, as is Sungshin Women’s University, but neither of them is really a nightlife spot. There are good bars in each though, so if you’re stuck in Uijeongbu or something else prohibitively far from main party areas, you’ll be able to make do with what they have to offer.
Step 2: Learn EVERYTHING About Your Areas
Now that you’ve chosen a fertile field for fraternization and fornication, your first job is to learn absolutely everything you can about that area and your home turf. In an ideal situation, you will know so much about your area that you will be able to sell it and convince women to travel there to meet you. This can be a tough sell, depending on where you live and what its reputation is like, but you should never leave free money on the table.
Forum user Stallion actually created a professional-level digital brochure for the small town where we both lived, and it worked to great effect in convincing girls that it was worth the trip to come visit. If you tell her, ‘Oh this place sucks, there’s nothing here,’ then of course she won’t want to make the trip! If you need ideas for cool things about your neighborhood, google it or even check out your district office’s website. They usually have some great pictures and ideas that you can steal for selling your area well.
Another thing to look for is a ‘famous’ restaurant in your area. Well-established restaurants will usually have been featured on a TV show at some point or another. They will have posters and pictures about it surrounding their restaurant, and for good cause. Koreans go cuckoo for cocoa puffs if you tell them that your local galbi joint is famous because it was on MBC or whatever. You can judge for yourself, but in my experience these places taste exactly the same as all others… But Koreans don’t know that, so use it to your advantage.
Lastly, don’t discount the decent areas near you that are also outside of Seoul. If you happen to be near a place like Bupyeong (Line 1 / ICN 1) or Geumjeong (Lines 1 / 4), they are great party areas. Not as good as the best spots in Seoul, of course, but a bird in hand is worth two in the bush.
This also goes for the local girls – don’t sleep on them! Now, your area may not have much going on in the way of nightlife, but that’s not an excuse. You’re at the dentist’s office and a cute girl is cleaning your teeth? Chat her up. Local CU girl in the flower dress? Take her number. Part-timer at the kimbap shop? Yup, you guessed it. You don’t have the luxury of passing on the locals just because it’s more socially difficult to game them well. Get good, son.
The second half of this step is to learn everything about the area in Seoul (or whichever city) that you plan to frequent and hunt in. This means that you should know all the good bars, restaurants, culture streets, etc of course. But it also means that you should have a firm grasp on when first and last trains / buses run from there, how much a taxi costs to get back home, how long that taxi normally takes you get you there, and where local motels are as a backup plan.
Depending on how casual your relationship to the truth is, you may be able to present yourself as living in the area, especially when meeting girls in other parts of the city. You can also veer a bit more toward the truth by saying you live X minutes from Y subway station. This can go a long way toward setting the frame of “not that far.” This is a phrase with which you will certainly become well-acquainted during this time of sub-optimal logistics.
The benefits to this step are obvious, however there are even more underlying opportunities it affords you. An example of this may be that you know an excellent brunch cafe near your apartment and you can sell the trip as worthwhile by using that. In the Hunting Ground, you should know all the good places so that when you bounce a girl from one place to another, you always have a next stop in mind in case one is having a particularly boring night. Being knowledgeable about the area and leading the way can often be the difference between her taking the last train home and her taking a taxi back with you.
Step 3: Find the Right Tool for the Right Job
As I’m sure you’re all aware, the types and styles of game are numerous, but for this particular task you will need to find the most efficient and effective vehicle of delivering dames to your den of depravity.
As you do not have the luxury of all methods being effective, you’ll need to experiment and see what works best. For certain locations, loathe as I am to recommend it, Tinder or Meeff may be your best bet. In other areas, local day game mixed with Hunting Ground bar game may be the key to carnal contentment. In other situations still, it may behoove you to do scouting game (number farming) in busier areas like Hongdae or Itaewon, then get them to meet you at either your area or the Hunting Ground.
The most important thing to realize in this step is that no type of game is off-limits. You are working with poor logistics and you will need every advantage you can get. Even subway game, which I know sounds intimidating, should be on the table for you. In fact, you may even find it to be an excellent source for meeting local girls. The perfect situation is meeting girls who live one or two stops away from you, so they are near enough to booty call but not so near that they’ll catch you creepin’.
Step 4: Perfect Your Routine
At this point, you have your Hunting Ground, you’re an expert on that area as well as your home turf, and you know what tools tend to bring the most bang for the buck.
The final step to really getting into mastery territory despite poor logistics is to get your meetup and date routine down perfectly.
For example, if you’re out on a date with a girl in your Hunting Ground, you’ll know to bounce her from one spot to the next at X time because the last train is in 30 minutes, meaning that she’ll still be on the first drink and not want to leave for it.
It means that you’ll know exactly what bait works for getting girls to make the trip over, and which lines / bait work better on a weekday versus a weekend.
It means that you’ll know which bars have drink specials on which nights, where the best spots are for a low-key talking date, and where to take her for tequila shots and beer pong. You’ll also know the bartenders well enough that they give you service drinks or run interference on your behalf when needed.
It means that you’ll know exactly what tourist spots to take her to on a relaxing Sunday hangout so that you’ll “coincidentally” end up walking by your apartment.
The point of this step is that you need to solidify every last aspect of your game and routine to maximize efficiency. Even when you get very good at doing all of the previous steps, at the end of the day you’ll still have fewer options and opportunities because of your logistical situation. You won’t want to let easy ones slide because of rookie errors, and when it does (inevitably) happen, learn from them and never repeat them.
And for the love of God, don’t be like forum user 20thCenturyBoy and lose a girl by taking the subway!
Until next time, players!